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the plaintiff thought the masters almost

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surely have a plan

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this clearly made me something near

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beyond the realm of man to thoroughly

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you think you know the less you really

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alright folks a smart man once told me

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that if you don't spend time in your own

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head getting familiar with your own

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thoughts how do you know they're really

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yours and it's a question worth

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reflecting on though the tech obsessed

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lift to work modern world makes it

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harder than ever to take that time

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whether by happy accident or nefarious

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design I can't say for certain but on a

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show where we regularly flip through the

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rolodex of entity influence today we're

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going to narrow in on a slice of the pie

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where we don't often consider the role

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or possibilities of such manipulations

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and that's love and relationships I know

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it might be an uncomfortable thought to

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consider passionate romance could be

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nothing more than the love bite of an

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interdimensional parasite coaxing you to

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bed with your significant other for

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their own selfish desires but if all our

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thoughts and actions are up for review

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when it comes for non-human influence

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love can be no exception

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and with us is the guest of guests to

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have such a chat her name is evil organ

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and she's been researching alien

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abductions since the 80s and upon

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getting her master's in counseling

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psychology she began working with

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abduction experiencers as well as

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MKULTRA mill labs and ritual abuse

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victims and her many years in this realm

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has resulted in two books firstly the

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love-bite alien interference and human

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love relationships and more recently the

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dark side of cupid love affairs the

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supernatural and energy vampirism she's

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done great work and I can't wait to get

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down to it Eve welcome to the higher

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side oh thank you for having me on today

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it's great yeah thanks for being here I

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think you have a really unique approach

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to these alternative ideas by focusing

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on the love and relationship side of

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things and if you're already open to the

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idea of interdimensional influence in

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human lives this should be kind of a

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no-brainer right because what other area

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of life are we so compelled to act so

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irrationally it seems almost cliche at

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this point it makes sense that we should

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take a second look at that but let's

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start out by defining some of your terms

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because there is a difference between a

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clear-cut alien love bite and what you

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call a dark side of Cupid type

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relationship can you break these open

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for us well on the love bite book which

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was the one that first came out in the

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year 2000 it was really more about quote

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the alien alien love bite and what I

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discovered working with people who had

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multiple alien abduction histories

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and/or alien visitations

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variances and also those who had what I

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called my lab or the mill AB kind of

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experience many of them had their

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relationships engineered or disrupted or

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interfered with in some way by who they

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felt were their alien handlers sometimes

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they were you know aliens or ETS or what

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they thought were ETS and other times it

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wasn't always clear or maybe it was

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let's say the my lab handler who was a

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human but operating in this kind of

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secret underground base kind of

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situation along with aliens

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so my first book was really about

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several case histories of people who

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definitely recognize that their love

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connections have been engineered or set

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up or even disrupted for some reason by

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these alien beings where they actually

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witnessed alien beings you know coming

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in the room and trying to scare off

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let's say a partner who is somebody

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you're dating that's a new new lover or

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in that book that basically demonstrate

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the the hypothesis that hey not only are

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aliens doing things like the classic

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abduction experience or the visitations

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where they may be doing medical

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procedures or you know taking you on a

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ship or whatever is that you usually

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hear about but they're also engineering

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are love relationships and actually

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interfering on a more subtle level

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sometimes it's not so subtle but it will

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interfere with our emotional lives as if

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they're testing our emotional responses

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to things and interfering in different

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ways that I think many of the early

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researchers didn't consider credible

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evidence but it doesn't really matter if

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it sounds credible or not they're doing

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what they're doing and the effects are

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very well witnessed and felt by a lot of

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people so that was the first book and

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that opened up a huge can of worms

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although my predecessors before me knew

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well about this phenomena and it was the

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late dr. carla turner and barbara barr

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taluk in particular who really helped

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educate me on what we're calling the

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drama of the love obsession that has

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been engineered by certain types of

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alien beings so that helped me a lot in

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terms of understanding what was

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happening because it was actually

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happening to me

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support group so I was doing this

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actually in the in the early 1990s or

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the mid-90s I was doing a regular

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support group for people who've had what

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I call anomalous trauma and most of it

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was people who knew they were having

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like alien visitations or maybe the

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military abduction element and then some

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who might have had some kind of MKULTRA

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ritual abuse but most of them were

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people who were very well familiar with

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the alien abduction experience and so we

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had discovered that there were several

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of us having experiences where we were

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all basically in some kind of love

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obsession where we're being having these

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like profound dreams that felt more than

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dreams when this actually happens to a

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lot of people who have these alien

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visitations many times in their life but

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it's just a dream but really it's not a

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dream they're actually interacting with

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you on another level of reality and they

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can interfere with you and maybe you

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only remember it as a dream and it could

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actually be a physical event or it could

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be something where they're interacting

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astral plane but more often than not

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they definitely can interfere and what

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we called it in the old days we would

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say well you know I had this really

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weird dream and you know such-and-such

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was present it was an alien standing

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there and they wanted me to be with this

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other person and they wanted me they

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were like testing me to see how I would

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find this other person to be attractive

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us up hmm kind of like how we breed

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different a lot of parameters I think in

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these relationship setups so it tended

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to be that the many abductees were set

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up with other abductees so that the

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aliens tended to want to use people who

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were already under their watch so to

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speak where there's a program but some

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of them were not some of them were

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actually chosen for one reason or

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finished with whatever they wanted to

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use that person for and basically

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switched him right off and the

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relationship was cut off and then then

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experiment mm-hmm so this is actually

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explained in several cases in the

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love-bite hmm interesting interesting so

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but it makes a lot of sense let me ask

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you what these entities get out of these

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manipulations are there different

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categories or agendas that you've

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identified oh definitely I think there's

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layers of agendas as well mm-hmm for

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example in the in the military abduction

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element weather is obviously a human

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element and some kind of covert cabal

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is working in conjunction with non-human

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entities or what appear to be non-human

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entities where let's say the military

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cabal human group may have a particular

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agenda or reason for setting someone up

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or breaking their relationship up and

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then the entities that they're working

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for who actually are their bosses

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because the hierarchy goes basically

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it's the alien controllers and a lot of

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these things and then the aliens may

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have their own agenda where they're

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basically you know making a deal

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no for the rep challenge for example

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they have their own they want to feed on

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the energy more or less they tend to do

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that more often they tend to be more

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overt with their strategy and how

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they're manipulating so the military may

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want to use someone let's say as an

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operative to do remote viewing or some

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kind of psychic ability that's amplified

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through sexual energy and it's known

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that sexual energy and Kundalini

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activation can amplify that kind of

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psychic ability and paranormal ability

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thing mm-hmm and so you know the aliens

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will know how to amplify and manipulate

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that so that the the Kundalini and the

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sexual energy is is basically amplified

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through interaction with a reptilian for

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example and then right after that after

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that sexual interaction where that

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amplification takes place the military

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would come and then they will take that

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person sometimes it will take them out

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of the body or they'll just take them

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they'll take their body and then they'll

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take them through a portal and then they

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use them on some kind of operation that

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may involve let's say remote viewing or

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some kind of psychic thing

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book with with a mil AB who had numerous

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numerous encounters so what I had

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hypothesizes there was basically four or

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five reasons and of course the first one

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was really what Barbara Barr select

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helped me understand clearly and that

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was there's a type of emotional

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harvesting of energies that these beings

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are feeding off of us and that they are

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deliberately creating these dramas and

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siphoning the sexual energy and the

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Kundalini energy to literally feed off

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of it as if it was a drug that fed them

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like they are type of vampire and

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parasite I think that's the main reason

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want to put people together and it could

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be they want a particular couple to work

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together because their connection will

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facilitate them carrying out let's say

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an agenda for their controllers or they

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they may want to have children of that

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genetic combination or that bloodline or

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let's say there was several I get that

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there were me laughs sometimes they put

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people together because it amplifies the

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sexual Kundalini energy in such a way

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that they are better twinned pairs

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working together as operatives so that

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they work better because they have a

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stronger bond and they're part of the

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let's say that characteristics of having

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a love bite for example is you have a

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very very powerful connection and it can

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feel like a soulmate because it's so

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strong that you're literally empathic

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and telepathic with that other person

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you can like it's like your souls are

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blended together and some of these

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experiences so when that happens these

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let's say a twinned pair will be

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telepathic with one another and they

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could share information on a much more

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secure way and let's say other forms of

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information transfer so even things like

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mine file sharing

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they literally download information from

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the energy body into the love-bite

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partner and that's what happens in

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miliband these high-level operations

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that are definitely you know beyond what

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we hear of in some of these MKULTRA

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projects although now are starting to

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hear

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that a little bit more in terms of the

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super soldiers and what they really do

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and how they're used mm-hmm but the

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aliens also use people this way not just

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human handlers so right and you

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mentioned energy feeding this is a big

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explanation behind the pedophilia rings

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we hear about in these high-level elite

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circles and institutions they sometimes

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get exposed and then are never really

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held accountable but feeding on the

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trauma and energy of children is

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apparently a key component maybe you get

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more bang for the buck with children I

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know it's just speculation but I wonder

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about the chicken and the egg question

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do powerful groups just decide to start

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feeding off the trauma and energy of

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children because they can or can some of

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their wealth and power and longevity be

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attributed to these practices it's hard

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to place exactly and maybe these

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practices are being carried out on

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behalf of the nonhuman portion of the

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power pyramid maybe it's not even energy

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for the humans themselves a proverbial

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deal with the devil type exchange again

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hard to speak with any certainty here

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but there definitely seems to be a

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connection wouldn't you say well there's

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definitely a connection between energy

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and power because sexual energy is you

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know the Shakti they call it Shakti and

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the life force does give you more power

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when you know how to apply it and a lot

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of these I think people who are doing it

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they've been able to streamline sorcery

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black magic

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Tantra along with technology to amplify

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what they can get out of this life force

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energy and it's most likely done through

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sexual energy siphoning or our blood

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sacrifice in terms of this the Satanists

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and stuff but I think there's an element

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of what I call the psychopathic vampiric

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character amenities people well people

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who are hosted by these nonhuman

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malevolent we can call them our context

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parasites you can call them other names

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right but there's a psychopathic

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characteristic that cause them to behave

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in ways that are quite perverse and

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corrupt and sexually perverted and so I

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think that happens with a lot of these

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groups that have been taken over by

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these really malevolent entities that

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require blood sacrifice and feeding to

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feed these entities right

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man and it's a common thing to talk

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about being overwhelmed or controlled by

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sexual desire and libido but how do we

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know what's built in to our biology

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versus what's being manipulated by

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something else outside have you

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developed a method to kind of discern

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between the two I suppose the only way

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to know is if you had one of these

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manipulations and then you compared it

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to what what wasn't a manipulation fair

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sometimes you only know when let's say

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you have a love bite let me tell you

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when you have one you know because it is

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so powerful I mean the connection is

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often sudden like a sudden switching on

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and a love obsession with another person

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and sometimes this happens in accordance

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with a powerful dream that seems a

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little more real than usual or it could

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happen after an abduction where there's

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missing time or a light in the sky or

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maybe you meet somebody and they just

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seem to have qualities that seemed

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unnaturally charismatic or powerful but

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when you have an activation of your sex

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drive where let's say it'll be switched

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on almost like something is literally

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being switched on in the middle of the

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night at a certain time or certain place

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in your body along with you know images

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that's being thrown in there then then

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you know there's something artificial

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about it so you really have to just feel

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what it would it feels like but energy

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healers that that I have worked with

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over the years clairvoyance for example

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where they actually perceive the energy

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body such as the aura and the chakras

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and the different meridians and some who

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are quite clairvoyant can actually

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perceive if there are let's say

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energetic overlays and implants or

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psychic cords linking them into an

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entity or a person so oftentimes they'll

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you'll be able to see and feel something

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that feels like a dirac implant or maybe

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even a physical implant if you can you

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know do some kind of scan and find

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something there so that's been found

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that's common yeah so if a person is not

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practicing magic overtly how do they

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really get mixed up with these types of

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entities is it as random as say getting

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stung by a bee do

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just occasionally wander onto the radar

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of some interdimensional being in some

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cases well some people believe that this

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is just a part of being born into this

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reality on earth that once we're born

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where we're in a predatory realm we are

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under the reality of these archaic

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rulers who are parasites by nature

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that's basically a gnostic belief but I

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think that there are ways where you may

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come under more influence of these

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beings by having certain kinds of

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genetic profiles bloodlines or

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connections with certain groups so I

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don't think it's necessarily

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opportunistic although I think there are

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some who tend to be chosen where it

431
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seems like it's out of the blue and

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they're just some kind of experiment

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whose being suddenly targeted but in my

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work I've found that there usually is a

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pattern that you could observe where the

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connections are made and that's actually

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a good thing because then that shows

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that we can have power over this kind of

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situation to to explore our own history

440
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and this is what I do in my therapeutic

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work or I always basically explore

442
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someone's history in terms of you know

443
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traumas what's the family connections

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you know do they have any affiliations

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with occult groups that practice magic

446
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or witchcraft or blood oaths or

447
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sacrifices for many generations down

448
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maybe they're not even aware of that

449
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kind of a connection or alphabet soup

450
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agencies military industrial complex

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careers aerospace careers one of the

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things that we found with the mill ABS

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in particular and these are people that

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we defined as someone having multiple

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alien abductions where they actually

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observed aliens and many of their

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encounters or abductions but they also

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had this military element as if they're

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in a specific project that has MKULTRA

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overtones

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okay and many of those people had

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parents who worked for alphabet soup

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agencies or high-level Freemason occult

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witchcraft groups or aerospace so a lot

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of I think that they once these

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companies hire these people they they

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make some kind of agreement or they may

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get involved in certain on-call

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organizations that kind of lock them in

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under a type of control system where

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whence they make those agreements with

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those large corporations or occult

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groups then that locks in a kind of

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permission to use everybody under their

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bloodline in these projects and I think

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there's something to that yeah you hear

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about it more and more and definitely on

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the subject of the mill labs then I hear

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really three different types of cases I

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guess I hear people saying that this is

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a covert Nazi eugenics program under the

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guise of an alien abduction program or

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that it's a partnership between ETS and

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military like you just mentioned or that

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in some cases the military is doing

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their own follow up abductions on people

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who have had actual alien abductions to

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try to get more information on what it's

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like for these people do you see all

490
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three of those being true or is is it a

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combination or is more one than the

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other you know actually I think all

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three are true what I'm finding is that

494
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there's definitely the whole

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interrogation thing where let's say

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these groups you will have a covert

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military shadow government whatever they

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tend to know who is being taken or who

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is having real encounters with like the

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real ETS like the real higher up ones or

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occasional ones and then they will want

502
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to follow them probably for their own

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national security reasons or they want

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to find out you know if this person is a

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threat or who they're working with and

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if it's counter to their agenda or if

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they're you know a security risk then

508
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there's the ones that I think that they

509
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do fake alien abductions under the cover

510
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you know making it pretend aliens and

511
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they're really just doing some kind of

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MKULTRA sub project and then some of

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these aliens are believed to be maybe

514
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they're nothing more than these hyper

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dimensional entities that come from

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other dimensional realms that have been

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invoked through these occult sorcery

518
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types of groups and then they are able

519
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to carry out a lot of different control

520
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systems and and Caltrain and theatrical

521
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things with that what they've learned

522
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through these entities to control and

523
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manipulate people like puppet

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so I mean I think all of us going on one

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of the things that I've heard recently

526
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it has to do with like the Nazi

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connection which we know there's a Nazi

528
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connection with some of this et

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technology and reverse engineered stuff

530
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right but I think it has to do with time

531
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travel technology and and what happens

532
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when let's say certain groups humans

533
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will use this and then over time they

534
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will insert themselves throughout

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history so that they basically become a

536
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breakaway group or a breakaway

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civilization and that may be the time

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travel technology along with their let's

539
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say where are they where are they at

540
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spiritually in terms of ethics if they

541
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are on a selfish bent you know or their

542
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don't have integrity then they can

543
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become regressive and their genetics

544
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actually degrade to become more I don't

545
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know just more degraded more

546
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psychopathic and I think actually that's

547
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what's happened with some of these like

548
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really psychopathic vampiric non-human

549
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entities that you know they were calling

550
00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:47,660
them aliens but it makes you wonder well

551
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:49,550
how did they get that way because a lot

552
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:50,930
of these abduction projects they're

553
00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:53,330
claiming that well they're they're here

554
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:54,920
because we need to help them upgrade

555
00:21:58,900 --> 00:21:57,170
their genetics or they try to turn it

556
00:22:01,030 --> 00:21:58,910
around say oh they're upgrading ours but

557
00:22:02,650 --> 00:22:01,040
really that's a bunch of [\h__\h] they

558
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,660
need to upgrade our genetics I think

559
00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:04,400
their genetics is messed up because of

560
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:05,630
what they've done and they're trying to

561
00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:08,690
piggyback on us to upgrade their own

562
00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:09,680
consciousness because their

563
00:22:15,010 --> 00:22:11,750
consciousness is degraded in their

564
00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:15,020
genetically mutated vehicles so it kind

565
00:22:19,150 --> 00:22:17,270
of goes together all that mm-hmm

566
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:19,160
so I think there is this whole Nazi

567
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:21,170
connection that there's a lot of fakery

568
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,510
and theatrics being done in the

569
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,520
abduction phenomena I definitely think

570
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,960
there's a lot of theatrics being done

571
00:22:31,030 --> 00:22:28,880
and that you can't necessarily take

572
00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:31,040
things at face value when people are

573
00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:32,600
remembering things I think you have to

574
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:36,440
dig deeper and really access I'm calling

575
00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:40,310
on the spirit component of the person or

576
00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:43,190
we can call it the higher self mm-hmm so

577
00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:44,630
there's a part of us that knows that

578
00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:47,630
absolute truth and so what I like to do

579
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:49,910
in my work is is to work with someone in

580
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:51,880
such a way that they can access directly

581
00:22:57,730 --> 00:22:54,890
their higher self their spirit

582
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:57,740
and go beyond any kind of programming or

583
00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:00,320
trickery or booby traps so they can get

584
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:02,900
maybe more of a pure truth of what

585
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:05,210
really happened and is happening and who

586
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:07,610
these beings really are because I think

587
00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:09,110
there's a lot of fakery and there's a

588
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:11,150
lot of programming and that's

589
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:13,610
unfortunate but it's true yeah it's so

590
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:15,320
tough to separate the fact from the

591
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:17,690
fiction and then when you study MKULTRA

592
00:23:23,170 --> 00:23:19,610
and you learn about just how malleable

593
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:23,180
our minds and our memories can be it's

594
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:25,850
hard to separate what's actually

595
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:28,460
happened to us from what just you know

596
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:31,730
it's in our heads yeah I mean it's it's

597
00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:34,010
amazing I think whoever these beings are

598
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:36,860
and the human groups that work with some

599
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:39,200
of them they have this down to a science

600
00:23:44,290 --> 00:23:41,810
and have been doing this for a very long

601
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:44,300
time and I think some of these secrets

602
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:46,310
are very ancient they've been done by

603
00:23:52,090 --> 00:23:48,770
cult groups long before you know the

604
00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:52,100
Nazi era for example so there's a way

605
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:55,670
that they can do magic and manipulation

606
00:23:59,800 --> 00:23:57,890
of our perception as well as controlling

607
00:24:01,900 --> 00:23:59,810
our energy and our consciousness through

608
00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:01,910
these I'm going to call them our contact

609
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,220
or demonic beings that they've invoked

610
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:07,760
and that that creates a problem it you

611
00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:09,410
know you hear a lot about that with the

612
00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:12,100
satanic ritual abuse that's the more

613
00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:14,870
diabolical forms but there's other kinds

614
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:17,300
of cults and then there's MKULTRA that

615
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:18,670
seems to have more of it military

616
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:22,610
application but my view is that many of

617
00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:25,250
the people who have super-soldier quote

618
00:24:29,470 --> 00:24:27,800
experiences or making those claims are

619
00:24:32,290 --> 00:24:29,480
those who've been heavily involved in

620
00:24:34,210 --> 00:24:32,300
MKULTRA let's say the high level the

621
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:34,220
high level operatives they there's

622
00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:36,260
usually some hidden element of what I

623
00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:39,230
call a kind of cult or ritual abuse that

624
00:24:44,380 --> 00:24:42,200
I think that the hidden underlying pin

625
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:44,390
that's allowing this and controlling the

626
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:47,810
whole thing is the type of principality

627
00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:51,530
or spiritual interdimensional entity or

628
00:24:57,910 --> 00:24:55,220
entities that have been invoked like

629
00:25:00,190 --> 00:24:57,920
high-level powers that I think are under

630
00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:00,200
this whole Demiurge ik realm that's

631
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:02,180
about in the ancient Gnostic literature

632
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:05,180
yeah I see plenty of indications that

633
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:07,370
that could be true too can you maybe

634
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:08,690
elaborate a little bit

635
00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:11,840
on the ritual or satanic abuse or some

636
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,550
of the experiences from people you've

637
00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:15,440
talked to that give the listeners a

638
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:17,630
picture of what's happening and some of

639
00:25:22,060 --> 00:25:19,370
these cultish circles like what some of

640
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:22,070
their actual activities or rituals might

641
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:26,570
entail Wow well I knew that um there was

642
00:25:32,110 --> 00:25:28,550
someone who just did an excellent radio

643
00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:32,120
show with Chris Hart white wolf bond

644
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:35,060
oxygen and somebody who shared his

645
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:38,210
experiences and he didn't really uncover

646
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:40,970
all these memories until much later down

647
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:42,710
the road and that's usually how things

648
00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:43,910
happen let's say if you're a high-level

649
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:45,680
operative your assassin or a super

650
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:47,930
soldier or whatever it is sometimes you

651
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:49,790
don't come to the awareness of your

652
00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:51,410
complete involvement on all these

653
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:53,260
different levels until you go through

654
00:25:59,290 --> 00:25:55,910
recovery and healing and therapy for a

655
00:26:01,720 --> 00:25:59,300
period of time so he actually shared the

656
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:01,730
ritual cult abuse element that he

657
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:04,010
discovered through his healing process

658
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,410
that was involved and his was a hardcore

659
00:26:12,190 --> 00:26:08,960
heavy like you know malevolent cult like

660
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:12,200
a Lilith cult hmm but not everybody has

661
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:14,570
something that's that like diabolical

662
00:26:19,450 --> 00:26:16,910
sometimes it's something as simple as Oh

663
00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:19,460
like remember one gal she was really

664
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:21,230
under the Egyptian thing and she had a

665
00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:23,510
lot of alien abductions but they seemed

666
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:25,700
to be just quote alien graves that

667
00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:27,170
didn't on occasion she would have

668
00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:30,920
memories of these aliens dressed up in

669
00:26:36,250 --> 00:26:33,620
robes like involved in a ritual kind of

670
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,260
thing and we're in it like underground

671
00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:38,480
base in area 51 and be like why are

672
00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:40,670
aliens you know like in robes doing

673
00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:43,040
rituals and like area 51 I mean that

674
00:26:46,330 --> 00:26:44,540
doesn't sound right that sounds kind of

675
00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:46,340
like something else is going on and it's

676
00:26:51,130 --> 00:26:48,800
under cover of something else right so

677
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:51,140
every now and then like if somebody has

678
00:26:58,210 --> 00:26:54,530
memories of a lot of blood or sexual

679
00:26:59,920 --> 00:26:58,220
abuse or sacrifice or death or being

680
00:27:01,930 --> 00:26:59,930
taken where there's people dressed in

681
00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:01,940
robes and sometimes it's just a

682
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:03,860
ceremonial memory that you might have in

683
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:06,050
a dream when people may be dressed in

684
00:27:11,410 --> 00:27:07,670
costumes and there's some kind of

685
00:27:13,870 --> 00:27:11,420
Masonic feel to it or Egyptian deities

686
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:13,880
being spoke and then you have a clue

687
00:27:18,340 --> 00:27:15,650
that there's some kind of ritual element

688
00:27:20,350 --> 00:27:18,350
being done in that person's life but

689
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:20,360
it's not always available into the

690
00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:21,950
memory or the consciousness until

691
00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:24,830
a lot of recovery work mm-hmm that's my

692
00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:27,230
experience anyway right and that's kind

693
00:27:32,590 --> 00:27:29,240
of what makes it hard for me to really

694
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:32,600
adopt as a solid truth that I can depend

695
00:27:38,769 --> 00:27:35,450
on I love hearing the stories and that's

696
00:27:40,779 --> 00:27:38,779
very fascinating to me but I'm always a

697
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:40,789
little skeptical when someone tells me

698
00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:42,769
that they got their memories way later

699
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,350
than they all came back later or after

700
00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:46,880
they were involved in hypnotic

701
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:49,190
regression because I just I'm not sure

702
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:52,610
how you know memories get into our mind

703
00:27:58,629 --> 00:27:54,769
and sometimes I don't know how reliable

704
00:28:00,970 --> 00:27:58,639
those types of memories are I said

705
00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:00,980
that's a good question I mean sometimes

706
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:03,950
our memories can be messed with with

707
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:06,830
mind control and and hypnosis many

708
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:08,510
people remember things without the aid

709
00:28:12,879 --> 00:28:11,630
of regressive hypnosis and they may you

710
00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:12,889
know when they do a good investigation

711
00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:15,590
of their history they'll they'll try to

712
00:28:20,169 --> 00:28:17,870
find things in the past and corroborated

713
00:28:21,730 --> 00:28:20,179
testimonies by family members or people

714
00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:21,740
that will remember certain things that

715
00:28:25,629 --> 00:28:23,720
they remember and they could go and

716
00:28:27,419 --> 00:28:25,639
check the facts and you know that's the

717
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:27,429
best way to do it if you can but

718
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:30,830
oftentimes you know trauma is such a the

719
00:28:36,129 --> 00:28:33,110
way we react to it or respond to it is

720
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:36,139
that we will repress things until such a

721
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,750
time that we feel safe and are ready to

722
00:28:43,509 --> 00:28:40,880
actually process that actual memory

723
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:43,519
because it is so full of emotion usually

724
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:46,850
or very shocking things that we cannot

725
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:49,130
handle that as a child or the age in

726
00:28:53,649 --> 00:28:51,470
which we had it then you add on you know

727
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:53,659
the mind control on top of it that they

728
00:28:57,370 --> 00:28:55,730
don't want us to remember there's a lot

729
00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:57,380
of these security issues so when you're

730
00:29:01,600 --> 00:28:59,570
being used as an operative under mind

731
00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:01,610
control you know you have all this extra

732
00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:03,860
stuff that they do to make sure that you

733
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,630
don't remember because it's a security

734
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:08,960
issue so it's it's it's really amazing

735
00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:12,159
that we remember at all imagine Lee yeah

736
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:15,559
on the subject of the mill AB stuff I've

737
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:19,010
had guests who talk about innocent

738
00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:21,620
seeming screenings and testings in grade

739
00:29:26,889 --> 00:29:24,470
school to actually be programs to seek

740
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:26,899
out psychically gifted or intuitive kids

741
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,510
and we know that the military used to

742
00:29:33,399 --> 00:29:31,760
screen their recruits for involvement in

743
00:29:35,769 --> 00:29:33,409
special programs that are related to

744
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:35,779
these kind of psychic effects what do

745
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:36,080
you

746
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:38,090
the military is doing here today are

747
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:40,010
they still involved in these things are

748
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:41,450
they just trying to find people that

749
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:44,870
could maybe open greater channels of

750
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:47,510
communication with the other side or are

751
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:49,490
they more deeply involved in working

752
00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:51,290
towards something more nefarious what

753
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:53,300
are the experiences that you're talking

754
00:29:58,270 --> 00:29:55,750
to what indications are they giving you

755
00:29:59,650 --> 00:29:58,280
well and I remember that's something

756
00:30:02,290 --> 00:29:59,660
that we shared in our support group

757
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:02,300
early on actually no it was more than

758
00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:04,610
mill abs in particular or the people who

759
00:30:08,860 --> 00:30:07,160
are had a lot of abilities and then we

760
00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:08,870
would just share like you remember when

761
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:10,280
you were a kid in elementary school and

762
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:11,930
then they do these like hearing tests

763
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:13,610
and then yeah you always have to get

764
00:30:17,050 --> 00:30:15,110
they'd call you like two or three times

765
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:17,060
and then set you off in a different room

766
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:18,560
and then they would be going you can

767
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:21,010
hear that you can hear that and then

768
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:23,750
obviously some people just have greater

769
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:26,330
ability to hear frequencies that were I

770
00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:28,610
guess not normal for the other kids and

771
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:31,550
they just tended to you know want to

772
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:33,050
check certain people more and then they

773
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:35,330
ended up in these projects but it's not

774
00:30:39,940 --> 00:30:36,890
just the hearing test I think there was

775
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,950
other programs in the early days where

776
00:30:43,690 --> 00:30:41,840
they would you know you be the special

777
00:30:45,490 --> 00:30:43,700
gifted kid and then they'd take you and

778
00:30:47,050 --> 00:30:45,500
do stuff and then you would have a

779
00:30:48,910 --> 00:30:47,060
memory swipe and wouldn't remember it

780
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:48,920
and then you'd be you know putting

781
00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:50,390
another project or something like

782
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,190
project Pegasus for example that's

783
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:53,840
something that Andy passaggio talked

784
00:31:00,400 --> 00:30:58,010
about yes I think that they do check but

785
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:00,410
there must be ways I mean there's many

786
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:01,970
people who find themselves in these

787
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:03,650
projects and it's not necessarily the

788
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:06,770
schools although many who have been in

789
00:31:10,270 --> 00:31:08,420
these projects they were orphans for

790
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:10,280
example they were in a Catholic school

791
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:13,340
or they were basically in some kind of

792
00:31:17,170 --> 00:31:14,750
organization that was completely

793
00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:17,180
controlled by those who run these

794
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:19,880
programs so a lot of times they were in

795
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:22,240
special schools and so they were

796
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:25,250
accessed a lot more I mean I think they

797
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:28,430
know by a genetic signature or if you're

798
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:30,200
in a certain bloodline or even maybe

799
00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:32,630
there's a frequency signature that they

800
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:34,790
can read when you you know when you're

801
00:31:40,660 --> 00:31:37,250
born and come into incarnation and it's

802
00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:40,670
as if they have some kind of way to

803
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:42,500
detect certain people who are

804
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:45,080
extraordinary mm-hmm and I don't know if

805
00:31:50,109 --> 00:31:48,110
they all are it is just that seems that

806
00:31:51,939 --> 00:31:50,119
way it's like these high vibrating

807
00:31:54,369 --> 00:31:51,949
people who are really aware they tend to

808
00:31:56,889 --> 00:31:54,379
get targeted really bad and there's

809
00:31:59,049 --> 00:31:56,899
something to that you know yeah and

810
00:32:01,059 --> 00:31:59,059
these whole programs there has to be a

811
00:32:02,169 --> 00:32:01,069
strong corporate involvement too right

812
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:02,179
because I mean with companies like

813
00:32:08,409 --> 00:32:05,089
Boeing or Lockheed Martin I've even yeah

814
00:32:09,729 --> 00:32:08,419
yeah dad worked for lucky I'm sorry you

815
00:32:12,129 --> 00:32:09,739
cut out right there and I think that was

816
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:12,139
important what was that I said Lockheed

817
00:32:17,289 --> 00:32:14,329
yeah you know my dad worked for luck

818
00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:17,299
the Ryder one blanked out yeah right I

819
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:19,489
actually knew that and I also saw in

820
00:32:23,439 --> 00:32:21,289
your bio that you worked for some

821
00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:23,449
biotech corporations in San Diego where

822
00:32:27,639 --> 00:32:25,819
I live and I just recently had a guest

823
00:32:29,379 --> 00:32:27,649
who talked about the strong military

824
00:32:32,049 --> 00:32:29,389
corporate collusion here as well as the

825
00:32:33,939 --> 00:32:32,059
high concentration of gang stalking and

826
00:32:35,859 --> 00:32:33,949
mill labs experiences going on in the

827
00:32:41,739 --> 00:32:35,869
area and in particular with this

828
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:41,749
corporation SAIC and okay yeah yeah

829
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:43,609
early would probably know about that in

830
00:32:48,219 --> 00:32:45,769
fact James also lived in San Diego

831
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:48,229
around the same time you know that I did

832
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,609
and we were actually part of the same

833
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:51,919
support group so he you know knew about

834
00:32:56,199 --> 00:32:53,809
SAIC because I remember him talking

835
00:32:58,689 --> 00:32:56,209
about that but you know I wouldn't

836
00:33:01,989 --> 00:32:58,699
surprise me that there's many that are

837
00:33:03,899 --> 00:33:01,999
military industrial interests in some

838
00:33:07,239 --> 00:33:03,909
kinds of technologies and then either

839
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:07,249
experimenting or you know using people

840
00:33:12,999 --> 00:33:10,039
and certain family bloodlines for their

841
00:33:15,549 --> 00:33:13,009
own uses I mean I could see that that's

842
00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:15,559
a probability just based on technology

843
00:33:19,809 --> 00:33:18,169
you know right well I mean you've said

844
00:33:21,609 --> 00:33:19,819
you've had a couple experiences you

845
00:33:23,259 --> 00:33:21,619
alluded to but it is an interesting

846
00:33:24,579 --> 00:33:23,269
background for yourself with your dad

847
00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:24,589
working for Lockheed and you're working

848
00:33:28,749 --> 00:33:27,559
in the area to be here in such a hotbed

849
00:33:30,369 --> 00:33:28,759
for this kind of stuff and then

850
00:33:32,969 --> 00:33:30,379
branching out to give counseling and

851
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:32,979
therapy to victims of these things

852
00:33:38,229 --> 00:33:34,849
absolutely I mean there's always this

853
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,239
process of Awakening and you know really

854
00:33:42,489 --> 00:33:40,399
one of the reasons why I got my master's

855
00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:42,499
in counseling psychology I really wanted

856
00:33:46,929 --> 00:33:45,199
to learn more about the abduction in the

857
00:33:48,639 --> 00:33:46,939
UFO phenomena because I knew it had

858
00:33:51,069 --> 00:33:48,649
happened to me in my life and I wanted

859
00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:51,079
to learn and I wanted to heal and I

860
00:33:55,629 --> 00:33:53,119
wanted to help others heal and and learn

861
00:33:58,659 --> 00:33:55,639
what I learned so it was all a discovery

862
00:34:01,569 --> 00:33:58,669
process and when I look back on it now I

863
00:34:03,309 --> 00:34:01,579
feel like that you know I could have

864
00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:03,319
been involved in a project where maybe

865
00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:03,590
they

866
00:34:07,810 --> 00:34:05,390
wanted me to do something but I didn't

867
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:07,820
do what they wanted me to do mmm that I

868
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:11,929
chose healing and I chose you know what

869
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:13,580
I felt was a better route than just

870
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:15,919
being a scientist you know I'm gonna

871
00:34:20,169 --> 00:34:17,690
just been a scientist but I didn't want

872
00:34:23,050 --> 00:34:20,179
to do that so yeah one more power to you

873
00:34:24,579 --> 00:34:23,060
and you you mentioned bloodlines and

874
00:34:26,889 --> 00:34:24,589
that's something I want to elaborate on

875
00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:26,899
a little bit because often times it can

876
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:30,230
be hard just to even peg down who some

877
00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:32,690
of these big elite quote/unquote

878
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,480
Illuminati families even are and then

879
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:37,520
some people talk about the bloodlines of

880
00:34:42,909 --> 00:34:39,830
the Fallen Angels that's even harder to

881
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:42,919
to trace or get verification of can you

882
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:45,310
give us some more details about that

883
00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:48,760
element how you actually parse out a

884
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:51,470
particular experiencers background and

885
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:53,750
determine that they are part of a branch

886
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,010
of some high profile family tree well

887
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:01,040
when I talk to people I take as much of

888
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:03,530
their history that they're able to share

889
00:35:08,829 --> 00:35:05,330
that they're willing to share because I

890
00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:08,839
think there is family involvement and to

891
00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:10,820
me it's definitely bloodline so

892
00:35:14,859 --> 00:35:12,500
sometimes you could tell by the surname

893
00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:14,869
or you just trace it back you know

894
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:16,760
whatever line and find you know their a

895
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:18,650
name that's like related to royalty that

896
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:19,970
you could trace back in history

897
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:22,190
sometimes you can sometimes you can't

898
00:35:26,020 --> 00:35:24,650
and then there's blood type you want to

899
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,030
check the blood type and you know

900
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:28,400
there's many of the Rh negatives to

901
00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:31,010
chosen at a higher statistical frequency

902
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:32,540
than the norm and I feel like there's

903
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:36,080
something there although you know

904
00:35:39,790 --> 00:35:38,180
sometimes you don't know unless somebody

905
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:39,800
just tells you because they know they're

906
00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:41,750
in a family that's a high level of

907
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:43,640
Illuminati bloodline that's involved in

908
00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:46,220
the cult activity but I think most

909
00:35:51,579 --> 00:35:50,060
people are not that caliber but the high

910
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:51,589
level blood liners they're going to be

911
00:35:58,570 --> 00:35:55,210
involved in things betterment or vert um

912
00:36:00,460 --> 00:35:58,580
like the things that Valley talks about

913
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:00,470
and she was actually from the San Diego

914
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:03,589
area and helped train many people so she

915
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:05,810
explained a lot of the classic

916
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,450
Illuminati training scenarios and the

917
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:10,160
kind of things that happen to those

918
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:13,250
families and what they do and so the

919
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:16,190
fruits premyer also discussed that like

920
00:36:20,530 --> 00:36:17,210
how that happens

921
00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:20,540
monarch MKULTRA related SRA programming

922
00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:23,180
but the people that I'm working with you

923
00:36:28,210 --> 00:36:24,830
don't always see such an overt

924
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:28,220
high-level bloodline red flag for

925
00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:30,620
example you know it's just not so overt

926
00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:33,230
and I think now with many of the mill

927
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:35,780
abs it seems like as long as they have

928
00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:37,610
spiritual permission to work with the

929
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,020
person through some agreement of

930
00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:40,880
entrapment that's based on a spiritual

931
00:36:45,610 --> 00:36:43,460
law and that in conjunction with some

932
00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:45,620
kind of genetic signature that they want

933
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,680
and they can just up and take you and so

934
00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:51,200
it's as if if they you have those

935
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:54,470
desired qualities then it's as if those

936
00:36:58,330 --> 00:36:56,510
things in your life are engineered in

937
00:37:01,120 --> 00:36:58,340
such a way that you have a type of

938
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:01,130
systemic trauma that may come through

939
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:03,890
quote your family or your work or your

940
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:06,200
relationships or even just happen only

941
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:08,680
in the abduction or the other

942
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:12,170
dimensional realm mm-hmm so it's not

943
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:14,450
always so clear cut and overt now I

944
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:16,820
think it's because their technology is

945
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:18,830
so good that now that they know how to

946
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:22,310
do it so well because really and if they

947
00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:25,220
want to use you as an operative to carry

948
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:28,040
out an agenda then you want to cause the

949
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:31,550
mind to be traumatized to dissociate so

950
00:37:36,730 --> 00:37:33,770
they can program it with personalities

951
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:36,740
programs abilities and overlay it with

952
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:39,050
let's say a test entities or demons or

953
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:40,430
whatever you want to call them and

954
00:37:45,340 --> 00:37:42,500
that's basically what they want to do

955
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:45,350
when they use you as one of their own so

956
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:47,330
they want all those qualities along with

957
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:50,090
high intelligence right and just an

958
00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:51,710
ability to do whatever they want you to

959
00:37:57,790 --> 00:37:55,640
do so I don't necessarily have to it

960
00:38:00,070 --> 00:37:57,800
doesn't have to show in your outer life

961
00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:00,080
mm-hmm yeah it can be subtle and I do

962
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:02,600
think that is a really compelling angle

963
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:04,610
the idea that you know having a

964
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:06,770
grandfather or a great-grandfather who

965
00:38:12,340 --> 00:38:09,410
was involved in Freemasonry or some

966
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:12,350
secret society this idea that they have

967
00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:15,140
blood oaths or offerings for future

968
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,600
generations in exchange for you know

969
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:19,520
wealth and power in their own life I

970
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:22,190
think that's really interesting and it

971
00:38:26,770 --> 00:38:24,770
seems totally possible to offer up your

972
00:38:28,070 --> 00:38:26,780
unborn child to some entity in exchange

973
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:28,080
for well their power

974
00:38:31,850 --> 00:38:30,090
I'm interested though in the logistics

975
00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:31,860
of such a deal have you looked into what

976
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:33,870
makes a covenant like that binding

977
00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:35,910
because if I did something like sold my

978
00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:37,260
soul to Satan on a piece of loose-leaf

979
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,360
paper on the third grade playground I

980
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:41,040
would hope that that doesn't actually

981
00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:43,650
count for anything but what do you know

982
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:46,830
about these type of agreements that's a

983
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:50,870
good question um actually I came to well

984
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,400
understand more about the spiritual laws

985
00:38:59,260 --> 00:38:55,740
through what I call the aboriginal

986
00:39:02,030 --> 00:38:59,270
Dreamtime healing and the laws of lore

987
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,040
and that's actually an Aboriginal kind

988
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:04,560
of understanding of how reality works

989
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:06,450
with the spiritual worlds and the

990
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:09,210
Dreamtime - why certain things happen

991
00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:10,770
and there's things that we call

992
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:12,300
agreements of entrapment

993
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:13,980
and sometimes they're actually quite

994
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:16,380
subtle and they're not as overt is like

995
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:18,630
signing a contract or making a deal

996
00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:21,270
during a ritual but I think that when

997
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:23,100
rituals are really done when you're

998
00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:26,700
really making a contract it is binding

999
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,550
usually blood oaths of some there's

1000
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:31,440
always some kind of blood involvement in

1001
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:33,990
that or signing you know getting your

1002
00:39:38,090 --> 00:39:35,610
agreement is really important for these

1003
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:38,100
beings getting some kind of agreement

1004
00:39:42,170 --> 00:39:40,200
because they have to work by their own

1005
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:42,180
laws - but whether or not they're

1006
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:44,460
binding if you are like a kid you know I

1007
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:47,370
I don't know I think that we're learning

1008
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:49,650
through things like holographic kinetics

1009
00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:51,690
although this is all very subjective you

1010
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:53,670
know because this is what happens in a

1011
00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:56,130
clearing process where we're accessing

1012
00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:58,500
spirit and spirits taking us to the

1013
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:00,900
origin of a particular trauma or issue

1014
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:02,310
where we know there's some kind of

1015
00:40:07,340 --> 00:40:05,250
pattern or interference going on and so

1016
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:07,350
we just take where the spirit leads us

1017
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:09,480
and then the spirit might show us a

1018
00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:11,610
particular experience where something

1019
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:14,430
occurred where it was a trauma or where

1020
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:16,170
an ancestor did something and made an

1021
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,300
agreement and so we basically cancel it

1022
00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:20,400
out we go back in time and you cancel it

1023
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:22,200
out and you recreate something that you

1024
00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:24,330
want and you get rid of the entities and

1025
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:26,670
you basically change the past change the

1026
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:28,590
present and recreate your future so you

1027
00:40:32,810 --> 00:40:31,020
have the power to do that as long as you

1028
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:32,820
can work with your spirit and work with

1029
00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:35,070
someone else who's in agreement with you

1030
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:37,380
to do that hmm I think you could even do

1031
00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:39,690
it with prayer personally that you could

1032
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:40,859
just pray

1033
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:42,630
that you want to cancel all those

1034
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:44,730
contracts that might be in your family

1035
00:40:47,989 --> 00:40:46,470
line to make sure that you know you're

1036
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:47,999
out of that game and you don't want to

1037
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:49,859
take part in any game that you're not

1038
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:52,170
aware of how you might be accessed in

1039
00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:56,730
some way hmm so that's interesting yeah

1040
00:41:01,160 --> 00:40:58,920
I love the idea I mean I've had guests

1041
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:01,170
talk about the financial success of

1042
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:02,970
certain groups like the Knights Templar

1043
00:41:06,739 --> 00:41:05,099
and their worship of Baphomet and it's a

1044
00:41:09,769 --> 00:41:06,749
bit of a paradigm shift when you start

1045
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:09,779
attributing super-successful factions of

1046
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:12,630
the elite with these individual entities

1047
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:15,089
like Baphomet I mean they had to be

1048
00:41:19,099 --> 00:41:16,380
getting something out of the deal maybe

1049
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,109
it's the offspring of these people I'm

1050
00:41:23,660 --> 00:41:21,359
sure I mean I know I had worked with

1051
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:23,670
people who are sought after for one

1052
00:41:29,029 --> 00:41:25,890
reason or another and I believe there's

1053
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:29,039
certain bloodlines that are very sought

1054
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:30,660
out because they have certain abilities

1055
00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:33,450
and lineages that for some reason they

1056
00:41:37,489 --> 00:41:36,150
want them and that they will make offers

1057
00:41:39,019 --> 00:41:37,499
to people and a lot of times when they

1058
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:39,029
make offers it's not always like

1059
00:41:42,739 --> 00:41:40,859
something that's happening in a 3d world

1060
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:42,749
where they you know out a boardroom and

1061
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:44,430
they offer you this contract blah blah

1062
00:41:48,019 --> 00:41:46,859
blah a lot of times they do it subtly

1063
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:48,029
and then though they're coming to your

1064
00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:49,710
dreams but they make it very well-known

1065
00:41:53,749 --> 00:41:51,989
this is not a dream and this is what

1066
00:41:55,999 --> 00:41:53,759
we're offering you and they will offer

1067
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:56,009
you whatever you want if you just do

1068
00:42:00,920 --> 00:41:57,599
what they want believe me that happens a

1069
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:00,930
lot right and you can accept it but then

1070
00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:02,970
nobody ever knows because it's done on

1071
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,190
this other realm but it's just as

1072
00:42:10,609 --> 00:42:07,920
binding and if you think about this

1073
00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:10,619
reality as illusionary in nature or

1074
00:42:17,479 --> 00:42:14,369
holographic the idea of giving up a part

1075
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:17,489
of yourself for a piece of the hologram

1076
00:42:22,099 --> 00:42:20,249
seems so backwards and these entities

1077
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:22,109
probably are just laughing all the way

1078
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:23,849
to the bank you know they're like you

1079
00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:25,529
know I got a piece of something real and

1080
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:27,720
all I had to do was a little abracadabra

1081
00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:30,599
over here and show them a shiny car some

1082
00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:32,700
green pieces of paper and a vault and

1083
00:42:37,009 --> 00:42:34,140
now I got the only thing that really

1084
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:37,019
matters in this life yeah essentially

1085
00:42:40,729 --> 00:42:39,390
because it is our power I mean this

1086
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:40,739
whole bloodline thing is really

1087
00:42:45,799 --> 00:42:43,650
fascinating when you if some of these

1088
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:45,809
ancient Gnostic scriptures are true

1089
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:47,730
about what really happened in the

1090
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:50,369
beginning with let's say the Demiurge ik

1091
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:52,890
the archons and the beings under them

1092
00:42:57,420 --> 00:42:53,770
that

1093
00:42:59,880 --> 00:42:57,430
crossbred with even some of these humans

1094
00:43:01,290 --> 00:42:59,890
where they actually created they call it

1095
00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:01,300
the serpent line but it might be

1096
00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:03,580
actually many variations that it's a

1097
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:06,940
type of hybrid that comes from you know

1098
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:09,369
the father element is from like a

1099
00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:13,480
Demiurge exhorting that they're under a

1100
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:15,340
different ball and you can call them

1101
00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:16,930
fallen angels and then there's those

1102
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,900
that are supposedly of the more pure

1103
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:22,240
spiritual race that in the Gnostic

1104
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:23,950
literature they call it the the Seth Ian

1105
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:25,900
race the spiritual race which is

1106
00:43:31,530 --> 00:43:29,230
basically just like Adam and Eve or the

1107
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:31,540
the pure human spirituals that came our

1108
00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:33,040
spirit came from the eternal realm

1109
00:43:37,410 --> 00:43:35,230
whereas the Demiurge as a secondary

1110
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:37,420
creation that did not come from the

1111
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:39,369
eternal realm that's why we have more

1112
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:41,290
spiritual power than they do but they're

1113
00:43:44,609 --> 00:43:42,670
always trying to trick us and control

1114
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:44,619
and manipulate us to take our power so

1115
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:46,630
we don't know we have it and just do all

1116
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:49,270
these dumb games right but supposedly

1117
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:51,910
there is a certain line of humans that

1118
00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:55,119
have a greater spiritual Faculty of

1119
00:43:59,790 --> 00:43:57,310
remembrance and in Gnostics they call it

1120
00:44:02,070 --> 00:43:59,800
acquaintance it's really remembering who

1121
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:02,080
you are remembering the eternal realm

1122
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:04,150
from where you came and reconnecting

1123
00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:06,310
with that inner knowing and so I think

1124
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,020
that there's blood lines where you have

1125
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:09,760
a little bit of more those qualities and

1126
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:12,280
you find it like I've worked with people

1127
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:14,890
who let's say women who claim that you

1128
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:16,090
know they're they're just sought after

1129
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:18,970
like bryggen I don't know I don't know

1130
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:20,530
what you call it but they're just these

1131
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:21,970
beings are always after them for some

1132
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:23,470
reason it's because they they have a

1133
00:44:27,570 --> 00:44:25,119
genetic quality or their blood they have

1134
00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:27,580
the Starfire thing mm-hmm or and that's

1135
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:29,230
these beings come after them because

1136
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:30,910
they have this quality and they have

1137
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:33,910
superior psychics I don't want to call

1138
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:35,710
psychic spiritual remembrance and

1139
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,050
abilities and awareness and so they're

1140
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:40,240
they're sought-after and then what these

1141
00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:42,310
darker bloodlines will do is they'll

1142
00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:45,190
seek to intermarry and interbreed with

1143
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:47,560
the pure ones because they want to

1144
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:51,250
hijack control and exploit the pure

1145
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:54,250
power that comes from the other one and

1146
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:55,750
so that's what a lot of these bloodlines

1147
00:44:59,820 --> 00:44:58,090
they basically they're intermarrying so

1148
00:45:01,500 --> 00:44:59,830
they can take this the true spiritual

1149
00:45:03,450 --> 00:45:01,510
gifts from the true spiritual race and

1150
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:03,460
so now all we have is just a mixture of

1151
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:05,290
all of that now everybody's probably

1152
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:07,030
some hybrid right

1153
00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:09,910
so that's their there after certain

1154
00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:11,620
minds more than others and there really

1155
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:14,680
is a real thing that and I read this

1156
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:16,750
actually in a French it was a French

1157
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:18,970
translation because I think the French

1158
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:20,530
and the Europeans know a hell of a lot

1159
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:24,190
about this kind of thing that there is

1160
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:26,530
something that is passed on from in the

1161
00:45:31,710 --> 00:45:29,050
bloodlines of spiritual gifts that will

1162
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:31,720
happen let's say after somebody dies and

1163
00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:34,090
then within a month or less or whatever

1164
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:37,240
then the ancestor who is the remaining

1165
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:41,200
living ancestor will receive spiritual

1166
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:43,450
gifts of the one that just died because

1167
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,950
there is something that is passed on

1168
00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:46,960
through the blood so there is something

1169
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,900
to that yeah it seems like we can say

1170
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:51,040
there's a lot of different things going

1171
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:52,870
on but still only to a fraction of

1172
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:55,330
people and skeptics probably roll their

1173
00:45:58,830 --> 00:45:57,430
eyes and ask where is the hard data for

1174
00:46:00,990 --> 00:45:58,840
some of these wilder claims and a

1175
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:01,000
smoking gun is probably always just

1176
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:02,530
going to be outside of our reach for a

1177
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:04,840
lot of this stuff but anecdotally just

1178
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:06,970
look at some of the major players that

1179
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:09,430
we do know about Henry Kissinger and

1180
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:11,470
David Rockefeller Coe look at a recent

1181
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:14,050
picture these guys they don't look like

1182
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:16,210
your sweet old clueless grandpa I mean

1183
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:18,420
could a person even look more demonic

1184
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:20,770
but that's not all folks you know maybe

1185
00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:23,080
I'm dealing with too small of a data set

1186
00:46:26,250 --> 00:46:24,460
but look at the law of averages with

1187
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:26,260
some of these guys ages Henry Kissinger

1188
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:29,530
92 David Rockefeller 100 Pope Ratzinger

1189
00:46:35,790 --> 00:46:32,790
another demon looking [\h__\h] he's 89

1190
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:35,800
George Herbert Walker Bush he's 91

1191
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:39,040
Barbara Bush 90 Queen of England 90 what

1192
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,510
are the chances you know when are they

1193
00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:42,400
gonna get cancer and heart disease and

1194
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:43,900
all this kind of stuff when is someone

1195
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:45,820
gonna pull them aside and ask the secret

1196
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,000
and then we hear these rumors of strange

1197
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:51,040
longevity rituals and not to go over on

1198
00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:53,170
too big of a tangent but we have people

1199
00:46:56,310 --> 00:46:55,240
like David Bowie Amy Winehouse Prince

1200
00:46:58,380 --> 00:46:56,320
Whitney Houston

1201
00:47:00,240 --> 00:46:58,390
all these well-off celebrities and

1202
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:00,250
there's speculation that their

1203
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:03,040
sacrifices of some kind they definitely

1204
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:05,290
died decades earlier and it's not

1205
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:06,760
conclusive but it really makes you

1206
00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:08,530
wonder why these elite are living well

1207
00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:10,360
into their 90's and the rest of us

1208
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:12,280
aren't I wonder if they might be here in

1209
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,100
another 10 years you know how far they

1210
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:18,160
gonna push it yeah there's no mystery

1211
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:20,710
really i believe the technology

1212
00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:22,570
therefore life extension and other

1213
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:24,580
occult means to acquire that through

1214
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:26,530
vampirism and that's pretty well known

1215
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:29,020
in black magic you know how to do that

1216
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:31,810
but not everybody can live that long

1217
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:33,220
anyway I mean I think they just turned

1218
00:47:36,450 --> 00:47:35,410
into Psychopaths basically you know once

1219
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:36,460
they get to that stage they're

1220
00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:38,650
completely hosted by a nonhuman demonic

1221
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:40,869
or you can call it like a narcotic mind

1222
00:47:46,109 --> 00:47:43,450
parasite whatever at that stage they're

1223
00:47:48,089 --> 00:47:46,119
completely taken over right and I don't

1224
00:47:50,339 --> 00:47:48,099
know if they're human anymore you know

1225
00:47:53,070 --> 00:47:50,349
yeah that's a distinction I am very

1226
00:47:55,770 --> 00:47:53,080
curious about how much of this is a

1227
00:47:59,700 --> 00:47:55,780
partnership and then how much of this is

1228
00:48:02,160 --> 00:47:59,710
like the elite being ridden by some type

1229
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:02,170
of entity well I think it's both you

1230
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:04,150
know right because there's certain

1231
00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:05,970
bloodlines that have been heavily

1232
00:48:10,859 --> 00:48:08,230
influenced they're very powerful

1233
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:10,869
bloodlines where they maybe make oats

1234
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:13,750
and they're of that quote religion and

1235
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:16,000
of those practices so if you're born in

1236
00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:19,770
those ancestries you may have a heavier

1237
00:48:26,609 --> 00:48:24,750
you can call it ancestral overlay of

1238
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,619
interference you can call it

1239
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:28,720
interference and it would be the sole

1240
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:31,720
body of those people are more heavily

1241
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:34,050
influenced by the beings that have been

1242
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:36,450
that been invoked and made deals with

1243
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:39,790
but I think that people can overcome and

1244
00:48:46,349 --> 00:48:42,970
that they can clear you know they can

1245
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:46,359
heal and they can get out from that but

1246
00:48:50,849 --> 00:48:48,160
yeah certain bloodlines are heavily more

1247
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:50,859
heavily influenced and this is kind of a

1248
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:52,810
random question but we talked a little

1249
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:55,630
bit about blood types and certain things

1250
00:49:00,839 --> 00:48:58,210
affecting people what about people who

1251
00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:00,849
have contracted more gel ins have you

1252
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:02,560
researched them at all or has this

1253
00:49:06,990 --> 00:49:04,150
possible connection ever crossed your

1254
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:07,000
path well I mean I've heard of it I've

1255
00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:09,790
had a few clients who do have Morgellons

1256
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,550
symptoms you know some of whom knew they

1257
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:15,040
were in experimental projects under

1258
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:17,530
MKULTRA mm-hmm

1259
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:19,450
and I think there is a connection there

1260
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:21,790
with some of them they're just an

1261
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:23,890
experimental they're being used for an

1262
00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:25,690
experimental kind of thing some of them

1263
00:49:30,930 --> 00:49:28,900
might but that's like the nanotechnology

1264
00:49:34,109 --> 00:49:30,940
and Harold cows Bela is probably the

1265
00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:34,119
best person who's researched those

1266
00:49:38,579 --> 00:49:36,460
things yeah I talked to him I had him on

1267
00:49:40,109 --> 00:49:38,589
and fascinating stuff I've been

1268
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:40,119
wondering about it ever since

1269
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:43,630
yeah I mean that's some nasty stuff it

1270
00:49:47,789 --> 00:49:45,970
is and not to derail this into a whole

1271
00:49:50,609 --> 00:49:47,799
nother topic but I recently saw that

1272
00:49:52,769 --> 00:49:50,619
documentary vac stand a stat that stuck

1273
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:52,779
with me is that they say that if this

1274
00:49:59,130 --> 00:49:56,710
current trend continues by 2032 half of

1275
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,140
our children will have autism and 80% of

1276
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:02,079
boys and now that sounds pretty radical

1277
00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:04,990
but if you couple that with the strange

1278
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:07,900
reports of Morgellons and observe the

1279
00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:10,210
way people are plugged into technology

1280
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:12,150
becoming more obsessed every day

1281
00:50:17,099 --> 00:50:15,490
20:32 starts to look like a very strange

1282
00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:17,109
world indeed and I wonder if we're not

1283
00:50:23,069 --> 00:50:20,470
being engineered to be empty husks for

1284
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:23,079
something else that's coming mm-hmm I

1285
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:23,950
would say so

1286
00:50:29,099 --> 00:50:26,559
I'd say it's looking that way and a lot

1287
00:50:32,249 --> 00:50:29,109
of people think well the whole thing is

1288
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:32,259
the artificial intelligence beast which

1289
00:50:39,479 --> 00:50:35,529
is actually run running a lot of these

1290
00:50:41,099 --> 00:50:39,489
things and that's a danger because it's

1291
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:41,109
running the humans and running the

1292
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:45,369
groups so that it's harder to deviate

1293
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:47,710
from because it's locked in a lot of

1294
00:50:54,029 --> 00:50:50,730
control systems to this psychopathic

1295
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:54,039
absolutely crazy [\h__\h] that is just

1296
00:50:57,329 --> 00:50:55,569
unbelievable I mean they want us to turn

1297
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:57,339
into a bunch of mind control zombies are

1298
00:51:00,900 --> 00:50:58,720
completely taken over where they're

1299
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:00,910
using our soul or our spiritual energy

1300
00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:03,730
to carry out their agenda so they can

1301
00:51:08,759 --> 00:51:06,220
basically piggyback their psychopathic

1302
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:08,769
life force on us or through us you know

1303
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:10,690
all right and I think you know some of

1304
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:14,130
this goes back to the alien parasite

1305
00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:17,049
aspect or agenda like the alien parasite

1306
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:19,630
consciousness that will parasite our

1307
00:51:24,529 --> 00:51:21,970
energy bodies and our physical bodies

1308
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:24,539
and they do that to live through us

1309
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:26,890
because that's how they extend their

1310
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:28,960
life through us and it's a parasitism

1311
00:51:34,170 --> 00:51:31,890
it's not symbiosis it's parasitism money

1312
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,180
hmm it's something like that because

1313
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:36,880
they want to like in Malaga's work and

1314
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:39,640
this goes back to Kurata malanga of

1315
00:51:44,279 --> 00:51:41,579
Italy worked with alien abductions for

1316
00:51:46,859 --> 00:51:44,289
25 years right I've heard you reference

1317
00:51:47,470 --> 00:51:46,869
them before yeah I really like how he's

1318
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:47,480
been a

1319
00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:50,450
to explain this in his own ever deal

1320
00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:53,300
evident ear theory it's just in Italian

1321
00:51:58,030 --> 00:51:55,670
but basically we have three components

1322
00:52:00,700 --> 00:51:58,040
of consciousness within our body you

1323
00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:00,710
know the mind spirit and soul which if

1324
00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:02,780
someone is let's say integrated and

1325
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:04,340
healthy and really in connection with

1326
00:52:08,550 --> 00:52:06,050
their quote spiritual remembrance

1327
00:52:11,470 --> 00:52:08,560
they're going to have this integrated

1328
00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:11,480
consciousness that can seal off a lot of

1329
00:52:16,510 --> 00:52:13,430
the interference because of the

1330
00:52:18,910 --> 00:52:16,520
integration factor but and people who

1331
00:52:20,830 --> 00:52:18,920
have been traumatized over and over

1332
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,840
again especially by these alien

1333
00:52:26,349 --> 00:52:23,119
parasites they have the incoherence

1334
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:26,359
between the mind spirit and soul such

1335
00:52:29,890 --> 00:52:28,430
that we don't have a clear communication

1336
00:52:31,570 --> 00:52:29,900
between let's say the mind and the soul

1337
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,580
or the spirit and the soul or the mind

1338
00:52:36,910 --> 00:52:34,160
and the soul so that you can't have

1339
00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:36,920
access to that part of yourself but then

1340
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:39,109
the aliens will insert themselves so

1341
00:52:44,050 --> 00:52:40,640
that they insert themselves in the mind

1342
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:44,060
component or the denser energy body that

1343
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:46,730
will affect our perception and can block

1344
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:49,430
our meridians and could screw us up so

1345
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:51,320
that's actually what along have found so

1346
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:53,690
he was able to work with the method to

1347
00:52:59,410 --> 00:52:56,450
help us clear ourselves basically

1348
00:53:00,880 --> 00:52:59,420
through a guided session and find out

1349
00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:00,890
where these aliens and how their

1350
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,260
parasite and I was able to discover that

1351
00:53:09,849 --> 00:53:07,040
how we experience the parasitism can

1352
00:53:11,530 --> 00:53:09,859
actually define archetypically what

1353
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:11,540
kinds of beings they are and where

1354
00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:13,970
they're from so I found that pretty

1355
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:16,550
fascinating because of many people

1356
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:18,530
who've had what they think is let's say

1357
00:53:22,810 --> 00:53:21,440
a reptilian being para sighting their

1358
00:53:26,109 --> 00:53:22,820
field let's say an interdimensional

1359
00:53:28,510 --> 00:53:26,119
fourth dimensional being they will be

1360
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:28,520
seen or observed or felt as if they're

1361
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:31,340
hovering in the back of them or

1362
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:33,650
clenching onto their back or their solar

1363
00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:35,990
plexus or their sexual areas but they

1364
00:53:40,210 --> 00:53:37,460
feel like they're always on the back

1365
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:40,220
side of them and there's actually a

1366
00:53:45,609 --> 00:53:43,010
reason for that because of their nature

1367
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:45,619
that there are nothing more than shadow

1368
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:50,210
beings that supposedly are our community

1369
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:52,250
hind us and that's why they're

1370
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:55,040
experienced that way whereas if we have

1371
00:53:59,590 --> 00:53:56,690
a being that's para sighting us that's

1372
00:54:01,240 --> 00:53:59,600
from our own universe and it's not felt

1373
00:54:03,010 --> 00:54:01,250
that way or it's not experienced

1374
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:03,020
way it's experienced in a different way

1375
00:54:07,690 --> 00:54:06,170
mm-hmm so it's pretty amazing and and it

1376
00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:07,700
really goes back to a lot of the same

1377
00:54:11,830 --> 00:54:10,070
things that that we're finding with you

1378
00:54:14,170 --> 00:54:11,840
know the aboriginal Dreamtime healing

1379
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,180
you know the spirit entity attachments

1380
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:16,880
and how these beings behave and what

1381
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,370
they're really after so I think it's a

1382
00:54:23,230 --> 00:54:20,960
lot of the same thing under many

1383
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,240
different names because these beings

1384
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:25,520
many of the alien beings I think they

1385
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:28,310
use many different forms and masks

1386
00:54:34,330 --> 00:54:32,450
but that's why it's so confusing all the

1387
00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:34,340
different alien races know it's this one

1388
00:54:39,130 --> 00:54:36,350
and it's that one and dad it's it gets

1389
00:54:41,350 --> 00:54:39,140
through confusing I think they use many

1390
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:41,360
different masks and that's why it's so

1391
00:54:44,890 --> 00:54:43,670
confusing so we really have to you know

1392
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:44,900
find out what is their energetic

1393
00:54:49,870 --> 00:54:47,330
signature and what are they doing to us

1394
00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:49,880
and are they speaking the truth and you

1395
00:54:54,670 --> 00:54:51,700
know you have to use a more refined

1396
00:54:57,010 --> 00:54:54,680
discernment process right you definitely

1397
00:54:59,650 --> 00:54:57,020
do and we are getting kind of down to it

1398
00:55:02,350 --> 00:54:59,660
but your work seems to take you all over

1399
00:55:03,940 --> 00:55:02,360
the strangeness map what seems to be the

1400
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:03,950
latest piece of the puzzle that has your

1401
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:05,630
attention where is the work going

1402
00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:09,410
um one having interest in understanding

1403
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:11,630
the multi-dimensional aspect of our

1404
00:55:17,530 --> 00:55:14,210
being and the remembrance that we have

1405
00:55:20,830 --> 00:55:17,540
with our spirit in let's say the eternal

1406
00:55:23,710 --> 00:55:20,840
realm of being and understanding let's

1407
00:55:27,370 --> 00:55:23,720
say multiple time loops and timelines

1408
00:55:29,710 --> 00:55:27,380
and lifetimes that will give us a memory

1409
00:55:32,350 --> 00:55:29,720
of how all this works together and what

1410
00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:32,360
is our place in that and just kind of

1411
00:55:39,730 --> 00:55:33,950
looking at it from a more comprehensive

1412
00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:39,740
view of connectedness hmm and really it

1413
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,320
takes me to a more spiritual place of we

1414
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:44,240
definitely have to do our healing and

1415
00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:46,310
the best way to come to that is to

1416
00:55:51,070 --> 00:55:48,620
connect more deeply with our heart and

1417
00:55:53,770 --> 00:55:51,080
with our spirit and once we make that

1418
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:53,780
connection then all else is basically

1419
00:55:59,470 --> 00:55:56,330
kind of revealed to us in terms of what

1420
00:56:02,050 --> 00:55:59,480
we really need and that's really the

1421
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,060
safeguard is once we make that self

1422
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:04,160
connection then we come to a better

1423
00:56:10,330 --> 00:56:06,890
understanding of everything right on

1424
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:10,340
well said well Eve I really enjoyed

1425
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:12,490
talking to you I think the idea of

1426
00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:15,050
interdimensional interference in our

1427
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,390
lives is definitely deserving of this

1428
00:56:21,220 --> 00:56:19,520
exploration I'm glad that I can have you

1429
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:21,230
here to talk about some of these lesser

1430
00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:23,570
explored angles but before we go would

1431
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:25,700
you remind people where to dig deeper

1432
00:56:30,310 --> 00:56:27,890
into your work as well as where to grab

1433
00:56:34,750 --> 00:56:30,320
the books thanks for asking of my

1434
00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:34,760
website is evil Oregon calm Evie e lor g

1435
00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:38,780
en el Oregon calm I also have a Facebook

1436
00:56:44,110 --> 00:56:41,630
page under evil Oregon and Eve Lordan

1437
00:56:47,860 --> 00:56:44,120
and then both my books are available

1438
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:47,870
through Amazon Kindle and hard copy and

1439
00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:50,870
then my website also has information on

1440
00:56:56,110 --> 00:56:52,700
both books so that you can order it

1441
00:56:57,580 --> 00:56:56,120
directly there or through Amazon so and

1442
00:57:00,330 --> 00:56:57,590
I'm working on another book with a

1443
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,340
colleague so it's always ongoing

1444
00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:02,480
exploration and discovery of what this

1445
00:57:07,390 --> 00:57:05,480
is all about so yeah it doesn't seem

1446
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:07,400
like the rabbit hole really ever ends

1447
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:08,810
really yeah

1448
00:57:13,090 --> 00:57:11,510
but very cool fascinating stuff thanks

1449
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,100
again and take care of yourself out

1450
00:57:18,670 --> 00:57:15,440
there thank you so much you got it

1451
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:18,680
have a great day you too boom people

1452
00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:20,750
another show in the bag not too shabby

1453
00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:22,790
you know it was a listener who told me

1454
00:57:26,380 --> 00:57:24,980
about Eve's work and the alien love bite

1455
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:26,390
idea so I thought I'd make a good

1456
00:57:31,420 --> 00:57:29,090
episode and it is worth exploring since

1457
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:31,430
love is probably the most spell like

1458
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:33,530
experience an average person has and

1459
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:35,690
when you see the pattern of fascination

1460
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:38,210
with sex and procreation that beings of

1461
00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:40,730
lower space and magic seem to have I

1462
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:42,260
think you can make a good case that

1463
00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:44,030
something's going on there on an

1464
00:57:48,460 --> 00:57:45,790
energetic spiritual level

1465
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,470
multi-dimensional level that might not

1466
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,200
be entirely clear I definitely think

1467
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:52,880
there are cases where people are making

1468
00:57:57,550 --> 00:57:54,890
a big deal out of nothing or giving too

1469
00:57:59,170 --> 00:57:57,560
much power to external forces in their

1470
00:58:01,240 --> 00:57:59,180
life but you don't want to throw the

1471
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:01,250
baby out with the bathwater right I do

1472
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:02,720
wish we could have gotten into more

1473
00:58:07,630 --> 00:58:05,630
details especially about satanic abuse

1474
00:58:10,030 --> 00:58:07,640
and cult victims obviously we know the

1475
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:10,040
cliche broad terms like blood sacrifice

1476
00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:12,170
and rituals but I'd have liked to have

1477
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:14,030
heard more about accounts from the

1478
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:16,520
rolodex of cases that Eve's familiarize

1479
00:58:22,060 --> 00:58:18,890
herself with but a lot of those are in

1480
00:58:24,070 --> 00:58:22,070
her books as well I also think we just

1481
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,080
talked about several different types of

1482
00:58:28,810 --> 00:58:26,240
interactions and situations and wasn't

1483
00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:28,820
always clear what was what and sometimes

1484
00:58:32,860 --> 00:58:31,070
toed the line of a battered wife advice

1485
00:58:34,690 --> 00:58:32,870
show which I guess might come up is a

1486
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:34,700
little bit weird but I thought some of

1487
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:37,190
those were unique approaches to the kind

1488
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:39,530
of material fans of a show like this are

1489
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:42,110
probably used to hearing maybe a lot of

1490
00:58:46,930 --> 00:58:44,630
familiar concepts but with a sour fruity

1491
00:58:49,780 --> 00:58:46,940
twist another reason I was particularly

1492
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:49,790
intrigued when I was setting this up is

1493
00:58:54,190 --> 00:58:52,160
that another listener contacted me and

1494
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,200
told me about a strange relationship she

1495
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,480
had and she had sent me some pictures as

1496
00:59:00,850 --> 00:58:58,160
well but apparently she was married to a

1497
00:59:03,130 --> 00:59:00,860
powerful guy for about five years said

1498
00:59:05,860 --> 00:59:03,140
he was a Mason and he was filthy rich

1499
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:05,870
told her he got his money from a family

1500
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:07,610
business but she couldn't even find any

1501
00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:09,590
documentation of this business and

1502
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:11,420
finally concluded that he actually

1503
00:59:16,210 --> 00:59:13,970
worked high up in a big oil corporation

1504
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:16,220
and he liked collecting voodoo artifacts

1505
00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:19,310
he would actually send people to Africa

1506
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:23,390
and the birthplace of Voodoo to get

1507
00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:26,000
specific things sometimes from graves

1508
00:59:29,380 --> 00:59:28,340
she said apparently I also thought it

1509
00:59:32,020 --> 00:59:29,390
was interesting he'd do a lot of

1510
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,030
high-level wheeling and dealing but

1511
00:59:35,830 --> 00:59:33,680
whenever she or another person was

1512
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:35,840
around here they would do their dealing

1513
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:38,210
in French so no one could really know

1514
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:40,610
what was going on crazy stuff and I

1515
00:59:44,140 --> 00:59:42,440
thought that maybe we could get some

1516
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:44,150
insight into those types of

1517
00:59:48,490 --> 00:59:46,610
relationships and the idea of entity

1518
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:48,500
involvement but I don't know lots of

1519
00:59:52,450 --> 00:59:50,750
speculation which has its place but I

1520
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:52,460
don't know if we brought very many new

1521
00:59:56,650 --> 00:59:54,770
ideas to the table but I hope you found

1522
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:56,660
something interesting in there and if

1523
01:00:00,430 --> 00:59:58,370
you want to dig deeper into these things

1524
01:00:02,860 --> 01:00:00,440
maybe you've had some abnormal or

1525
01:00:04,660 --> 01:00:02,870
energetically draining relationships in

1526
01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:04,670
your own life and you want to feel like

1527
01:00:09,130 --> 01:00:06,560
you're not alone or get advice for what

1528
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:09,140
to do Eve's books would be the best

1529
01:00:13,570 --> 01:00:11,810
place to go for you that I know and I do

1530
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:13,580
apologize for the delay I know it's

1531
01:00:17,260 --> 01:00:15,350
already the 15th of the month and this

1532
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:17,270
is only show number two but I did have

1533
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:19,610
some scheduling issues had to push a

1534
01:00:22,810 --> 01:00:21,170
show back from when I thought it was

1535
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:22,820
going to be recorded and didn't really

1536
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,250
have time to fill that void but we are

1537
01:00:29,710 --> 01:00:27,200
back on track now we got Eve today I

1538
01:00:31,330 --> 01:00:29,720
just recorded a show with Melinda Leslie

1539
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:31,340
who you might remember Robert Guffey

1540
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:33,230
bringing up when we discussed his book

1541
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:37,040
camellia and the SAIC corporation and

1542
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:40,130
it's weird ties to the mill AB abduction

1543
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:41,930
experience and then we're going to be

1544
01:00:45,649 --> 01:00:42,809
talking to the dark

1545
01:00:48,049 --> 01:00:45,659
Prince of Chaos magic Gordon white once

1546
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:48,059
again he has another new book out this

1547
01:00:52,399 --> 01:00:50,130
one's called the Kaos protocols about

1548
01:00:54,859 --> 01:00:52,409
success magic in the new economic

1549
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:54,869
reality and I have been reading it and

1550
01:00:59,569 --> 01:00:57,089
loving it you'll even find a quote of

1551
01:01:01,579 --> 01:00:59,579
praise from me in it which is a bit of

1552
01:01:03,649 --> 01:01:01,589
an honor but that's gonna be a great one

1553
01:01:05,449 --> 01:01:03,659
really psyched for that and then I have

1554
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:05,459
some other interesting interviews

1555
01:01:10,699 --> 01:01:07,799
scheduled in the next couple of weeks I

1556
01:01:12,439 --> 01:01:10,709
hope they go according to plan and if so

1557
01:01:14,839 --> 01:01:12,449
we might be able to blow a few months

1558
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:14,849
but until then take care of yourself I

1559
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,130
still have some conspiracies I'm trying

1560
01:01:21,289 --> 01:01:19,079
to clear out that are 50% off a

1561
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:21,299
conspiracies net and that's pretty much

1562
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:23,609
it for me this week your move Cupid

1563
01:04:42,859 --> 01:01:25,890
energy vampires and alien love biters

1564
01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:45,180
hey guys thanks for listening to the

1565
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:46,750
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1566
01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:49,089
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1567
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:51,160
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1568
01:04:55,230 --> 01:04:53,529
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1569
01:04:56,970 --> 01:04:55,240
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

1570
01:04:58,980 --> 01:04:56,980
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1571
01:05:02,099 --> 01:04:58,990
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1583
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1584
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1592
01:05:44,430 --> 01:05:42,640
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01:05:46,650 --> 01:05:44,440
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1594
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:46,660
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01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:50,680
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01:05:56,819 --> 01:05:55,150
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1599
01:05:58,859 --> 01:05:56,829
we've got a nice forum going where

1600
01:06:00,569 --> 01:05:58,869
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1601
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:00,579
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1606
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1607
01:06:15,450 --> 01:06:13,750
the Plus comments are always the first

1608
01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:15,460
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there's also a direct messaging feature

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01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:26,230
plus site also well beyond the forum if

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01:06:29,999 --> 01:06:27,849
you like any of the music I've used for

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01:06:31,799 --> 01:06:30,009
THC most of it I've hired artists to

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01:06:34,109 --> 01:06:31,809
make and I provided all its free

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01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:34,119
downloads to Plus members too so if you

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01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:35,529
like a particular song you've heard

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01:06:40,049 --> 01:06:37,720
close the show out recently come get the

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01:06:42,059 --> 01:06:40,059
mp3 I should also mention that if you

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01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:42,069
don't like the idea of paying $5

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01:06:46,589 --> 01:06:44,410
recurring every month I get that you can

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01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:46,599
buy three months six months or a year

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01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:48,940
upfront and just be done with it I have

1625
01:06:53,249 --> 01:06:50,680
plenty of listeners who send checks and

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01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:53,259
money orders to the PIO box too I try to

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01:06:55,710 --> 01:06:54,160
make it as easy for

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01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:55,720
people as I can and you can read more

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01:07:00,420 --> 01:06:58,000
about it on the signup page also be sure

1630
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:00,430
to check out the FAQ help page on the

1631
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:02,200
plus site if you have any questions or

1632
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:03,599
concerns about how to listen to a

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01:07:07,529 --> 01:07:05,650
password-protected show on your devices

1634
01:07:09,809 --> 01:07:07,539
I've highlighted a lot of great

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01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:09,819
solutions and one of those would be the

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:11,890
iPhone app that just recently hit the

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01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:14,410
Apple App Store a super kind and

1638
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:16,569
talented listener made it for us and you

1639
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,400
can use it to stream or download either

1640
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:20,559
the free or the plus show if you're on

1641
01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:23,530
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

1642
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:25,119
addict and subscribe to the feed

1643
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:27,700
manually that way I also try to throw an

1644
01:07:32,370 --> 01:07:30,400
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

1645
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:32,380
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

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01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:34,569
get to try out soon but I give you all I

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01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:36,520
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

1648
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:38,200
least give it a shot if you've listened

1649
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:39,910
to a few free shows and you find them

1650
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:41,650
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

1651
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:43,450
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

1652
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:45,609
of them but if you have any questions

1653
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:47,410
concerns or comments about any of this

1654
01:07:51,809 --> 01:07:48,940
please get in touch with us at the

1655
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:51,819
higher side chats team at gmail.com I

1656
01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:53,770
also wanted to plug the higher side

1657
01:07:56,970 --> 01:07:55,150
newsletter I'm going to be putting out

1658
01:07:59,460 --> 01:07:56,980
totally free for anyone who wants to

1659
01:08:01,620 --> 01:07:59,470
sign up at the main internet website for

1660
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:01,630
the show the higher side chats com

1661
01:08:05,279 --> 01:08:03,520
you can also get on that email list

1662
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:05,289
through the higher side chats Facebook

1663
01:08:09,089 --> 01:08:07,630
page there's a button there as well but

1664
01:08:11,579 --> 01:08:09,099
the reason I'm doing this is because I

1665
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:11,589
get tons and tons of emails after a show

1666
01:08:15,569 --> 01:08:13,450
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1667
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:15,579
a particular guest or topic and the

1668
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:17,170
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1669
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:19,150
do that especially if I have anything

1670
01:08:22,979 --> 01:08:21,130
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1671
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:22,989
to settle sometimes I need to hear

1672
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:25,480
feedback from you guys first there are a

1673
01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:27,040
lot of factors but I usually have

1674
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:28,660
something to communicate to you and I

1675
01:08:32,729 --> 01:08:31,120
just don't get to do it so on the first

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:32,739
of the month I plan to send out a little

1677
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:34,330
newsletter with my thoughts about the

1678
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,670
five shows the previous month and talk

1679
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,560
to you about anything else that's on my

1680
01:08:42,510 --> 01:08:40,719
mind or that's going on and what's

1681
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:42,520
probably most enticing is that I'm gonna

1682
01:08:46,169 --> 01:08:44,290
give you some insight into at least one

1683
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:46,179
guest I have coming up in the month

1684
01:08:50,249 --> 01:08:48,250
which people have been begging for some

1685
01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:50,259
posted schedule for a long time I

1686
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:52,179
personally think I'd like the surprise

1687
01:08:55,860 --> 01:08:53,890
but sign up for the higher side

1688
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:55,870
newsletter it's free it comes out on the

1689
01:08:59,130 --> 01:08:57,250
first of the month and I won't waste

1690
01:09:01,709 --> 01:08:59,140
your time with any other emails and

1691
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:01,719
that's it I appreciate you listening I

1692
01:09:05,999 --> 01:09:03,850
try to give alternative ideas and guests

1693
01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:06,009
a fair shake on a high-quality podcast

1694
01:09:10,140 --> 01:09:08,109
expose some deep level can speak

1695
01:09:11,849 --> 01:09:10,150
Krissi's without the yelling and I hope

1696
01:09:13,979 --> 01:09:11,859
to offer some inspiration that even

1697
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,989
though the system relentlessly suggests

1698
01:09:17,970 --> 01:09:15,520
you should follow their blueprint to

1699
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:17,980
mediocrity you can do your own thing and

1700
01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:20,170
live a much happier life despite all the